Those who are faithful to the Traditional and True teachings of the Orthodox Catholic Church are being persecuted within the church itself. We need to pray for one another not only to be strong enough to endure persecution, but to have a true heart and mind of God over the matter. We know the true church of God will triumph over evil in the end. That God is fully in control despite of what it looks like to many people. Don’t hate the enemies of God, but pray for their conversion. Be patient till the end and we will be rewarded unimaginably so. We are at war with Satan and Jesus has already won the war. It is a time of testing who will leave Him, through cowardliness or indifference of His sacrifice for them. Pray for the children that they will know the truth about what is from God and what is coming from the enemy the devil. The church will be restored to greater glory than before. It is a promised from God Himself. Meanwhile we must fight the good fight to the end with love and courage and pray for one another, for it is urgent. Many do not know what Catholics are supposed to believe in anymore.
I have heard a story one day about this man who was dying, was asked I think by his guardian angel, if he wanted to do his purgatory on earth or in purgatory itself. The guardian angel told him he would do three years in purgatory. The man chose to go to purgatory. After a while he wondered why he was still in purgatory, because he believed he had done his three years, but was told he had only done three days. Then the man realised how good God was to him in is illness on earth. Another story was a person was in purgatory for eight years and said it felt like thousands and thousands of years. Time in purgatory goes so slowly, because of the suffering they have to endure. Mary comes to comfort them on her feast days and also on Saturdays. Most people apparently spend about twenty or thirty years in purgatory.
I personally prefer to do my purgatory on earth. I hate suffering and I think it is far better to do it on earth, because in the long run the time here goes quicker. And suffering here is less painful in the long run and you get rewarded for doing it here, not so in purgatory. We should be so much more grateful for Jesus for what he went through for us. People left behind after the rapture takes place, will have to do their purgatory on earth without the reward. They are simply going to be purified and made holy, which is a great blessing in itself. They are going to receive God’s mercy but there is also going to be God’s justice. It is going to be the most exciting time in their lives as well as the hardest times in their lives. They are going to see and perform greater miracles that has ever been seen in this world and they will be greater than the works Jesus did, which Jesus speaks of it in the Gospel. The video ‘small still voice,’ Jesus has told Clare about the miracles and a prophet I think Maria Divine Mercy spoke about facing purgatory on earth. The other stories come from other video shows or books that I have read in the past.
- The Mass is Calvary continued.
- Every Mass is worth as much as the sacrifice of Our Lord’s life, sufferings and death.
- Holy Mass is the most powerful atonement for your sins.
- At the hour of death, the Masses you have heard will be your greatest consolation.
- Every Mass will go with you to judgment and plead for pardon.
- At Mass, you can diminish more or less temporal punishment due to your sins, according to your fervor.
- Assisting devoutly at Holy Mass, you render to the sacred humanity of our Lord the greatest homage.
- He supplies for many of your negligences and omissions.
- He forgives the venial sins which you have not confessed. The power of Satan over you is diminished.
- You afford the souls in purgatory the greatest possible relief.
- One Mass heard during your life will be of more benefit to you than many heard for your after your death.
- You are preserved from dangers and misfortunes which otherwise might have befallen you. You shorten your purgatory.
- Every Mass wins for you a higher degree of glory in heaven.
- You receive the priest’s blessing which Our Lord ratifies in heaven.
- You kneel amidst a multitude of holy angels who are present at the adorable Sacrifice with reverential awe.
- You are blessed in your temporal goods and affairs. In eternity, we shall fully realize that it was certainly worthwhile to have assisted at Holy Mass daily.
I believe that many Catholics and priests are no longer celebrating the Mass with this understanding. The Catholic Church is being attacked. I have been kicked out of my local church and far as I am concern there are many traitors within the church, watering down the truth in every way they can. Since I have been kicked out approximately seven years ago I have been saying my own form of the Mass at home. Many people would be horrified in me doing this, but I can reassure God has made it clear to many times that He has accepted it. Only because I can’t receive the host in any other way. One of my Masses that I celebrated in my home, I asked God if other people who can’t receive the Mass for what ever reason such as living in remote places or like me kicked out, may you put it into their heads to celebrate their own Masses at home too, and God was please with that prayer.
These promises I got from ‘The Pieta Prayer Book.’
Communication can be a real problem. We are not always hearing what a person is actually saying. Humans have a great tendency to do a lot of presuming. We presume we know what the other person is saying. A great many times we presume wrongly and as a result we are forever arguing with one another. Some people are better communicators than others. There are different ways to communicate such as the universal language of music and art. Writing is another form. Not everybody is good at talking and being understood when speaking face to face with another. Especially when there is hostility present, such as prejudice. Prejudice blinds a person so that they are not really listening to what the other is saying. When two people from different backgrounds such as the classic example from a different culture, with a very different personality with completely different educational and emotional background, no wonder why we misinterpret one another so often. We are also told men and women speak a different language from one another and therefore have problems communicating with one another, especially married couples.
We Sometimes Speak A Different Language
What this is leading up to Protestants and Catholics also speak a different language as well. I have been both a Protestant and now a Catholic with very strong Protestants influences. My beliefs are mostly Catholic but I go about it the Protestant way. So I am a cross between the two and it is not a comfortable position to be in. There are some things that I have learnt as a Catholic from a book called “The Way of Divine Love” by Sister Josefa Menendez. It is a classic. Through her sacrifices she made way for the chaplet of Divine Mercy. She was what Catholic’s call a ‘Victim Soul.’ The word victim here does not mean what most Protestants think of when they say victim. In other words there is a language problem. When Catholic’s refer to someone as a victim soul, we consider them extremely blessed and favoured by God. Specially chosen for that important calling. It is a great honour to be chosen by God to be a victim soul in our eyes. You need to be truly loyal, humble and courageous with a huge heart. Otherwise you wouldn’t make it. After reading this book, I didn’t know how to explain it to a Protestant, about this kind of calling.
I remember I had a Protestant friend who was an elder at his church. He had the opinion if you had real faith in God, you would not experience any tragedies. Life wouldn’t be so hard. That view is the complete reverse of the life of being a victim soul. We all understand the calling of being a Martyr better. Sometimes we are called to defend the faith and that may cost our lives. One day I heard a Protestant repeating what Jesus said about her husband and that was her husband had prayed for a long time to suffer a little of Christ suffering with Him. Jesus explained it to her as a fast offering. Catholics would call it being a victim soul. Different words meaning the same thing. Jesus was speaking it in the language a Protestant would understand it. If He was talking to a Catholic He would have said victim soul.
God Does Know Our Language
God does know our language better than we do ourselves. This is fairly a new idea amongst many Protestants and not all agree with it. Catholics have always believed in it. We believe the more favoured you are the greater the fast offering of your life united to Jesus would be. Your influence is great with God, because you have proven faithful to Him. Your prayers are so much more powerful when we make sacrifices for God with love. Many Protestants see it as Catholics believe that we enter Heaven by our own works, which is far from the truth. Any offering you give God if it is not united with Jesus’s suffering and merits, which He alone has gain for us, by faith, it is never acceptable to God.
Protestants know about food fasting, but it needs not stop there. Victim Souls often do food fasting too, but they also literally share the sufferings of Jesus. Of course not the whole weight, nobody is strong enough spiritually and what we do suffer is given to us by grace anyway. One Asian woman has the stigmas on her hands, like St. Francis had. They say every time you go near her you smell a very beautiful aroma. You can see this program on YouTube. St. Francis was the first person God gave the stigmas too and then many other saints received them after that. Some saint’s stigmas were invisible, only the saint knew about it and others were visible for all to see.
One well known person was a priest who had the stigmas Padre Pio. Somebody asked him if they hurt and Padre Pio replied ‘do you think God gave me these for a decoration?’ For those who are new believers, stigmas are what we call the wounds of Jesus, where they nailed His hands and Feet to the cross. And the lanced that was speared through His Heart after He died to prove that He was dead. The thing that it also proved was that He was who He said He was, the Son of God. It is also said that the soldier that pieced His side with a lance was converted, because he witnessed with others the blood and water flowed out of the side of Jesus. Receiving the stigmas is a very high honour, but by itself it doesn’t give you a free ticket to enter Heaven. You have to believe Jesus has paid the price of our sins, put your whole trust in God and obey Him and serve no other god, but God Almighty like the rest of us.
I believe God wanted me to write about victim souls, because that wasn’t my intention. My intention was about Catholics and Protestants not listening to one another and that we do a lot of presuming about one another that is not true. For example many Protestants get worked up when Catholics refer to Mary the mother of Jesus, as our mother also. I think personally it isn’t the most important concern of God whether you refer Mary as your spiritual mother or not. Some however do love to make a great issue out of things. Instead of embracing all that we share in common, they love to fight and cause disunity in the members of the body of Christ.
One thing I do notice these same people do not have any problems with Protestants Prophets prophesying that God is raising up mothers and fathers to nourish, teach and lead His flock. And they have no problems accepting Heidi Baker and Joan Hunter and few others as mothers of the flock that God has given them. If that is acceptable to them what is so wrong referring Mary Jesus Mother as our spiritual mother as well.
There is a huge difference between honouring somebody and worshiping somebody. I honour my parents, and especially my father. Not because I love him more than my mother. Some people might be confused by what I have just said. The last few months of his life I saw the making of a saint before my eyes. I know people are thinking I am just boasting here, but that is not it. I love God with my all, so anybody who brings me closer to God in any way, I am going to appreciate them. To see a making of a saint before your eyes, helps you to understand first what a saint is, secondly how straight and narrow the road that leads to life eternal is and that God can do all things even to people who you think is least likely and so much more. I saw things during his trial that was incredibly beautiful and amazing about God. I also saw the opposite, the horrific attacks Satan placed on him. It is no small war becoming a saint. You have to give your all to become one. And God is right there for you and most willing to make you one. God told my mother and myself at the same time that what my father was going through in a few months, was what a saint normally takes a whole life time to reach. So yes I can’t help be amazed at what God did for him.
When I was a young Protestant back nearly forty years ago, Protestant thought less of Mary than they do today. I rejoice when I hear Protestants spending time meditating on the role Mary played in our redemption, even though they probably wouldn’t say it like that. I remember my Minster back in the old days, even though a good man, with a sneer of disapproval on his face, he told me that he read that Mary and St. Joseph were bad parents. Even then my heart was saying how could they have been bad parents? Where does he get that idea from? He certainly didn’t get it from the Holy Bible.
People Don’t Understand Catholic that Well
I don’t know how many times my heart feels like it is breaking when I hear how Protestants misinterpret Catholic’s relationship with Mary as worshiping. I am not saying there aren’t some Catholics that have over step the line, but certainly not all Catholics have. And I know if we dare call ourselves Christians, we have to first obey God foremost, otherwise it is a lie. God doesn’t want us to consider ourselves superior to others. He wants us to love one another as He loves us. Therefore God does not look kindly on people who act as if they have the authority to judge another; that role belongs entirely to Him. Especially when we judge somebody in His name. Judging others will backfire. Instead of judging somebody when you see has a fault, you should pray for them out of your love for that person and God. That way God will not judge you.
How many times I have seen in my own life (and no doubt you have seen it in your own too) when people have judge me wrongly. They judge by outward appearance. They judge by what it looks like to them. How many times a very little innocent thing has been taken out of contexts and made to look like something that in truth was not at all happening. We have all been guilty of it. Pride in our own reasoning is not healthy, but instead dangerous to the road of sainthood. The straight and narrow road that only a few will find, mostly, because we don’t want to discipline ourselves. We want to go on the broad and easy road that many travel on, because on this road we need not care about how we hurt others, we simply do what we like and then we have a nerve to call it good.
God Will Teach You All things if You are Open to Him
God looks into the heart of the matter. Protestant do not know what God Himself teachers the Catholics, because very few Protestants will read and study what Catholics saints have been told by God. I was told by one lady that she did her homework. She knew what Catholics believed in, because her mother was a Catholic and her grandmother was a practising Catholic. So was my mother a practising Catholic and my grandmother too was a practising Catholic. I still didn’t have a clear understanding of Mary. I remember one day I really wanted to know what the rosary was all about. So I asked my mother and she was trying to explain it to me. I couldn’t understand what she was talking about, so very unlike me, because I do respect and honour my mother too, in my frustration I threw the rosary beads at her and I said ‘say it!!’ So my mother starting saying the rosary and then I got it. I then understood what she was talking about.
More you look into Marys sacrifice the more you love her. ‘Love one another as I have loved you’ is a commandment of Jesus. People you owe your life to, always holds a special place of honour in your heart. If you do not have that special place of honour towards them, there is something wrong with you. You simply would not be a very humble or grateful kind of person would you? One day I was worried about one of my cats, he wasn’t getting enough attention. He isn’t as demanding as all my other animals are. So I had to go out of my way to give him the attention he needed and immediately he is now demanding attention like all the others. Now I received a lesson from it, and it was the more time you spend with a person or animal, the more you get to know their personalities and therefore the more you love and appreciate them. Now that might sound a very odd thing to compare this lesson with what I learnt about Mary, the Mother of Jesus here. The truth of the matter is, if you don’t spend time meditating the honour Mary received as the Mother of Jesus in the first place, you are going to miss out on many blessings.
Jesus Wants Mary to be Honoured by All of Us
Jesus wants His Mother to be honoured and thanked for the important role she played in our redemption. If she had said ‘no’ we would be in a lot of trouble. She was especially created to be the Mother of Jesus. Nobody would have been able to take her place. No one would have been strong enough to take her place. She was more valuable than a prophet. God will tell a prophet if you don’t do it, I will get somebody else to do it. This is not the case with Mary. You don’t know things about Mary as the Catholics saints do. Jesus and Mary both tell the Catholic saints things that the Protestants saints are not willing to hear, so they are not told. Jesus and Mary will not speak to them about it. Generally speaking you have to be both humble and open enough, before God will talk to you on any subject. I have had only one experience out of all my experiences where Jesus branched out onto something I wasn’t prepared or opened for.
And that was when I was about eight years old. I saw Jesus in spirit, sitting on my bed and on His lap was a very small white lamb. And He was stroking it and told me it was me. I couldn’t understand it and I looked up and said to God the Father, ‘that is blaspheme only Jesus is the Lamb of God.’ Then a thought came to my mind and it said ‘who is this talking to you.’ Then I thought only people commit blaspheme not Jesus and so then I looked at Jesus again. I saw Him bent over with a stick in His hand drawing something on the ground. (I didn’t know that is exactly what Jesus did with the women that was caught as adulterous in the Gospel.) I saw Jesus had a beautiful smirk on His face. He thought it was funny. I then turn my attention towards the lamb and was trying to work it out. Then the visitation ended. I was left still wondering what it all meant. Why I have brought this up is to say out of all my experiences this is the only time God left me confused. In that it was too advance for me at that time to work it out.
I am sorry if I have to keep relying on my supernatural experiences to explain things, but I know I am called to write and to teach what I know. Since I am not a scholar I have only my experiences to go by. I let God worry about the outcome of everything I do or write.
This article was written approximately three years ago, so things have changed. The Latin Mass is what many traditional Catholics are going to, because at present the Holy Mass has been done away with.
When I was young and a Protestant, my mother who was a Catholic would go to our church on a regular basis. She told me once that the service compared to the Mass, just felt like a prayer meeting. My mother wasn’t being mean, that is how she felt. When I became a Catholic I understood what she meant. Protestant are very fearful of the Holy Catholic Mass. They associate it unconsciously if not consciously with the Black Mass. It is how Satan has designed it, to keep them away from it. When I was very young, nobody in our church actually said it, but I could feel it in the atmosphere very powerfully what Satan put into their hearts. They saw the Holy Mass as the Black Mass, I could see that they had visions of all the Catholics taking off all their clothes and dancing around the altar naked. I was very young at the time, but that is exactly how I felt the congregation’s saw Catholics and the Mass. It was as they say so thick, you could cut it with a knife. Of course it confused me no end, because I knew my mother would never do such a thing, nor my grandmother or my aunts and cousins.
A War Going On Inside Me
There was a war going on inside me. Do I listen to the church or was I going to believe what I knew in my heart to be true, which was Catholic are Christians and that they wouldn’t dream of doing such a thing. You wouldn’t think I would have to fight for the truth, but as Saint Pauls says you are not fighting the flesh you are fighting evil spirits, powers, principalities and wickedness in high places. About ten years ago I was walking down the street and an evangelist pull me over the side to chat with me. And since I was now a Catholic approximately thirty years by this time, I was curious if Protestants still felt that way about Catholics, so I tested her. I told her I just come back from the Mass, and I saw instantly in her eyes fear and she literally jumped backwards out of fear. I thought they still haven’t changed. I feel in many ways it is even worst. Since Satan is trying very hard to ruin the Catholic Church by bringing in exceedingly evil people to destroy her within her walls.
People Are Very Easily Deceived
The problem people don’t see that, what they see is the evil people represents Catholics, which of course they don’t. Jesus said to be always on the alert for those who will deceive you, such as wolves in sheep skins. They may seem very holy at first, but as they start to win you over they then twist the truth around, because the whole idea is to lead you straight into hell. By getting you to walk away from the true teachings of Jesus. Christ also said first get the log out of your own eye and then you can see more clearly to get the speck out your brother’s eyes. There of course many beautiful Protestants out there that are following Jesus very closely and they do obey the commandment of love thy neighbour as themselves. But unfortunately there are very many ignorant people both Catholics and Protestants out there that are very easily led astray.
The Members of Christ Should All Be In Harmony
People are naturally prejudice of others and like to think they are superior and just down right suspicious of anything that is different from them. There are of course many Catholics and Protestants that point the finger at each other. I just want to remind everybody, Satan hates Christians and he is going to do his best to bring war on us, from within and from without the walls of the church. The members of the body of Christ should be working in harmony with one another. If you want a healthy body, and Christ does, we need to get on with what God has called us to do and mind our own business, which is a very hard thing to do, because Satan is always tempting us to gossip and tear one another down.
What Is The Holy Catholic Mass?
The Holy Catholic Mass, what is it? Why does Satan want to keep people away from it? Why is he making sure people fear it? All Mass is; is Holy Communion. Protestant practise Holy Communion don’t they? There is a division amongst Protestant in that some of them believe that Jesus was talking symbolically, while other Protestants churches believe as the Catholics do that Jesus meant what He said, that the bread and wine turns into the body and blood of Christ. Many miracles occur when receiving the body and blood of Jesus if you believe. I sure have experience many communications from the Host. In many Protestant churches Holy Communion is celebrated once a month. If you are Catholic and are fortunate enough these days to belong to a church in a city you can go to church and celebrate the Mass seven days a week and receive Holy Communion each time. I use to go to Mass just before I use to go to work and it gave me enormous strength to deal with working in a very worldly place, promoting evil basically (The Education Department). I also was suffering from breakdowns and had social phobias to attend with. If I didn’t receive the strength from Our Lord during those times I would not have been able to endure all this and God used me as a witness for Him. Going to Mass every day got me through.
The Difference Between The Mass And The Service
Holy Communion is what the whole Mass is centred around, with the service it is basically centred around the sermon. So the big difference is Catholics who are true believers (there are many that are lukewarm as with the Protestants) go to Mass to receive the Lord. It is all about Him not the priest or the homely it is all about receiving Jesus. We eat Him!!!! You can’t get any closer to Him than that if you truly believe. You feel the presence of God, it brings you in union with Him and it strengthens you in your daily walk. It is much stronger receiving Jesus this way then only once a month. That is why Satan doesn’t what the Protestants to know about it. Satan doesn’t want Protestant to become stronger by receiving Jesus’s body and blood on a daily basis.
Celebrating Holy Communion In Your Own Home
I haven’t gone to the Catholic Church for about seven years now, because Satan has successfully kicked me out of it by a wolf in sheep’s clothing. I don’t want to start throwing mud around. I don’t feel comfortable to go back there again. So I am going to a beautiful small Protestant church at the moment. But meanwhile, while I wasn’t going to any church at all. I started to practise my own version of the Mass, other people would call it Holy Communion. God told me very early on, to do it every day. And I did asked once if people who live in a remote regions where they can’t go to church and receive communion would you put it into their minds and hearts to do their own version of the Mass too. God was pleased with the prayer. In other words He was saying Yes they can do their own version of the Holy Mass.
Now I hear that the Catholic Church is now facing a major crisis where this so called pope (the keys of the Vatican was taken up to heaven by God when Pope Benedict XVI resigned, accordingly to the prophet Maria Divine Mercy). has change the Mass into something that it has never meant to be. So if you are in that situation where they are saying that Jesus is not present in the Eucharist (which is another word for Host – the bread that has turned into the body of Christ) I would say my own version of the Mass, if you can’t find a priest that is remaining faithful to Jesus to celebrate the Holy Mass as it should. God will accept your own version of the Mass, if you are not in a position to receive Him in any other way. But I have to warn you when I started doing it I was told by Jesus that I had to do it every day.
First I want to point out the difference between purgatory and hell; one is temporary and the other permanent, but there is also another difference. Hell is eternal punishment for your sins, purgatory is purifications for your unforgiven sins. There are many and many Christians that are not worthy or ready to go to heaven when they die. Look at their sins, only the perfect go to heaven and they are only a few. What about the narrow gate, only a few will find it and enter in. Jesus is talking to His followers.
Protestants time after time again will say Purgatory is not in the Bible. Wrong it is in the Bible! The same way the Rapture is recorded in the Bible, though it doesn’t use the word Rapture, we know what Jesus is talking about. That word came after the Bible was written. If you look at the scripture Matthew 18: 23-34, the story begins and ends, but notice what verse Matthew 18; 34 has to say. I am quoting from a Protestant Bible “The Woman’s Study Bible” New International Version. “In anger his master handed him over to the jailers to be tortured, until he should pay back all he owed.’
Jesus is Talking about Purgatory
If Jesus was talking about hell we all know you never get out of hell, because you will never be able to pay all that you owe. Only through the blood of Jesus you can pay back all you owe. There are no Buddha’s, Islam, Hindus’ etc. in Purgatory only Christians. Catholics call them holy souls in Purgatory, because they are all belong to the sheep fold of Jesus Christ. They all believed in Him, they were not just quite up to scratched to enter heaven yet. So they are sent to purgatory to be made ready to go to heaven. That sounds a lot like mercy to me.
I remember when my father was dying. There is often a lot of mind reading going on during these intense occasions. I knew my father was satisfied that he confessed all his sins, but I knew different. My mother had very fair skin and my father always insisted that she go to the beach with him. She wasn’t a beach person and so she would find a place to sit down. There was no shade. She would sit there for hours at a time, while my father enjoyed his swim. My mother’s face became so lined that she looked at least twenty years older than she was.
God is not Mean
I was going to tell my father that in my mind to his, but then I got cold feet. Then a spirit appeared to both of us and told me in a very firm manner to tell him. My father was listening into the conversation, wondering what sin it was that he didn’t confess in a peaceful manner. Well I went from one extreme to the other, I shouted it out so loudly that there was a spiritual echo and it was like the echo went through the whole of heaven. So that everybody in Heaven would have heard it. My father panicked and responded so fast and ask my mother, who was there at that time, to forgive him. My mother didn’t know what was going on between us, but it was an important apology for her, she never forgot it years after. And she always remembered it with fondness.
My father was a very good man, but we all have weakness and we all sin. If I didn’t told him of that sin, he would have died not confessing it. So what I am trying to say, God would not of send him to hell, because he really gave his all during those last few months of his life. God is not mean, he knows where our hearts are at. If we are for Him, but need some cleaning up to do, we go to Purgatory until we have done our time in purification, which is a very painful process to endure! If our hearts are closed to God, even as a Christian we will go to hell forever, when we die.
The Book of Maccabees
There is a two books called Maccabees, it is in some Bibles but not in all. I am going to quote from 2 Maccabees 12: 42-45 …..and gave themselves to prayer, begging that the sin committed might be urged the people to keep themselves free from all sin, having seen with their own eyes the effects of the sin of those who had fallen; after this he took a collection from them individually, amounting to nearly two thousand drachmae, and sent it to Jerusalem to have a sacrifice for sin offered, an altogether fine and noble action, in which he took full account of the resurrection for if he had not it would have been superfluous and foolish to pray for the dead, whereas if he in view the splendid recompense reserved for those who make a pious end, the thought was holy and devout. This was why he had this atonement sacrifice offered for the dead, so that they might be released from their sin….
Another thing to point out; as we all know Christianity roots come from the Jewish faith and in the Jewish religion, they even now still pray for the dead. I am not sure for how long, but it is in fact for a long time, some weeks at least. There are many and many testimonies about people in Purgatory, written in books. One book it is called ‘Purgatory’ and it is a Tan Publications. It was my first book and it scared me like you wouldn’t believe, because of what they suffer.
They suffer the pains of hell. That is why I want as many Christians to know about it as possible, because you can help them through your prayers to shorten their time there. Believe me every Christians has relatives suffering there and because people don’t know about Purgatory, they are not helping them. So they have to stay there full time. For some it is going to be until Judgement Day. How do I know? Jesus has told Catholics Saints centuries ago and is still revealing to Catholics in this century too that it is so. I have been told personally by Jesus to pray for my relatives and I do it every day.